Anybody a retirement druggie?

[RobbieB]

Oh yeah! This cultivated 20% stuff is truly "one hit sh*t", which is kinda nice as you don't have to put a lot of combustion products in your lungs. I mostly use a little water pipe with a tiny pinch (pea size) of bud and since THC is not water soluble the water absorbs the combustion products but not the "good" stuff.

 

[MC Rider]

Oh yeah! This cultivated 20% stuff is truly "one hit sh*t", which is kinda nice as you don't have to put a lot of combustion products in your lungs. I mostly use a little water pipe with a tiny pinch (pea size) of bud and since THC is not water soluble the water absorbs the combustion products but not the "good" stuff.

A bong is the way to go.


Or vaping. The cartridges have north of 70% or 80% thc and are very smooth.

 

[NW-Bound]

... And I spent my 20s running nuclear reactors and tending to nuclear weapons, both of which required periodically peeing in a cup.

I worked for a defense contractor, and there was a "zero tolerance" policy regarding drug use, with a random testing program. And this applied to all employees, not just the ones with secret clearance.

It did not bother me, because I never used any drug. I wonder how it is there now, with MJ legalized.

 

[RobbieB]

I worked in Industrial sales and the whole office smoked dope, snorted cocaine and drank beer. On company property and on company time!

But not all the time, just special occasions -

 

[stepford]

I too had to "pee in a cup" as part of the interview process for my first job out of school. I was still in my 20s, and so not nearly as drug-free as in my later years. Fortunately urinalysis was less sophisticated back in the 1980s and simply tested for the quantity of drug metabolites - lower the concentration enough and you'd pass. Knowing this I drank a LOT of water in the day leading up to my test. Let's just say it wasn't my first pee of the day (it wasn't my 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th either). The water-clear fluid I produced for my test allowed me to pass with flying colors and begin a 25+ year career in the defense industry.

I worked in Industrial sales and the whole office smoked dope, snorted cocaine and drank beer. On company property and on company time!

But not all the time, just special occasions -

Some folks have all the fun! None of my work colleagues were druggies, and honestly it was at least partly that peer-pressure that led me to slowly give it up over the first few years of my career.

 

[RobbieB]

I hired in at the Main office in Detroit fresh out of school. Not a lot of party going on there. I went through the training program (visits out to the various plants that made the products we sold and sales training) these trips included a few "smoke sessions" with my co-workers. I bought 5 ml of hash oil from one of them and a dozen hits of LSD.

But then you had to interview with the district managers to actually get out in the field and sell. I did one in Kansas City, MO and one in LA. After dinner in LA I whipped out the hash oil and my little glass pipe and the boss and I lit up in the parking lot of the restaurant.

A couple of months later I packed up my bright red '57 Chevy and began my California adventure. The hash oil did the trick -

 

[Amethyst]

If they are on a Federal contract using Federal budget dollars, and I don't see how a defense contractor wouldn't be, they are under Federal rules. Whether it's legal where the contractors actually reside, makes no difference.

I worked for a defense contractor, and there was a "zero tolerance" policy regarding drug use, with a random testing program. And this applied to all employees, not just the ones with secret clearance.

It did not bother me, because I never used any drug. I wonder how it is there now, with MJ legalized.

 

[street]

I worked for a defense contractor, and there was a "zero tolerance" policy regarding drug use, with a random testing program. And this applied to all employees, not just the ones with secret clearance.

It did not bother me, because I never used any drug. I wonder how it is there now, with MJ legalized.

Yep, same here Zero Tolerance and random testing. Never worried about that thou.

 

[kgtest]

20 year smoker. Gave it up because DW has asthma and she didn't want a "bad" influence in front of kids. I guess I don't miss it. I felt like it sort of opened up doors in my mind that abstinence just doesn't do. Had a buddy who would get so sick he would throw up after just one "hit". It's not for everyone, especially the stigma around DW. If I ever needed it for pain management I would probably use the vape, or edibles. Vape seemed to have a lighter effect.

Some of those edibles would straight knock me out into a nice sleep. It suppressed a lot of "nightmares" when I was using which was key for me. Now I just deal with them. I have bat **** crazy nightmare's. DW thinks melatonin would be a better substitute but I also consider her "uneducated" and stubborn I've never tried. Ahhh the things we do for LOVE.

Things DW really despised:
1. the smell (not legal here so I got what I got) and when I got the hay weed mid-grade, it was funny because both DW and DF (my ol man) would "complain" but if I got some really really good stuff, it was just still DW complaining and DF would compliment the smell.

2. the stigma. It's still not "legal" here and DW really brought that up a lot. Although the last time I actually got in "trouble" with it was back in like 2003. I don't know that with today's society I would have been in "trouble" as it appears to be largely way more accepted in society. DW worried what the neighbors would think, what her folks would think, what the pastor would think, what the dog down the street would think, but she "worries" about what other's would think about...well, a LOT of stuff.

3. the time. the time it took to grind it up, pack it up, puff it down...was time away from her...but she also complains about needing lots of "space" which IMHO when I was lighting up...that was a good opportunity for "space" no pun intended. The time it took to go get the stuff, again not legal here so I have to somewhat deal with sketchy people in sketchy neighborhoods. That was always my slight concern and had really hoped it would get legalized so I wouldn't have to put me or my family in that position.

4. the "effects". DW didn't like the types of conversations I would get into, some she thought were "out there" etc.

Do I miss it....a little, I felt it benefited me. But again, sacrifice is sort of what this world is about in some weird odd sense. It was a nice "escape" for me at times and I didn't think there was anything wrong with that... DW did.

Took a trip to Amsterdam when I was 17 with my buds. Again no pun intended. $200 round trip ticket but you HAD to buy the airline tickets in pairs. I saw a lot going on in the red light district, bad things, fun things. Spent most of that trip inside coffee shops and sleeping in youth hostels. I will never forget Barnies Breakfast Bar. It was my favorite "shop" in Amsterdam.

 

[MC Rider]

Always liked R Crumbs work.

 

[kgtest]

I had multiple top secret clearances and plenty of drug tests. There is always a way around all that business. Its probably a bit surprising to a non-user, but for every front door, there is another trap door. It doesn't necessarily need to be your pee that goes into the cup

 

[RobbieB]

I've never been drug tested. That first Co. was the only "mega corp" I've worked for and that was '80's. All the rest were micro corps that really didn't care unless you were a total screw up.

 

[kgtest]

I saw too much tragedy with drugs when I was young to be tempted. The first 11 years of my life I grew up in a neighborhood where the sight of "junkies" was common. Coming across an OD victim with a needle still in his arm when I was in grade school, men and woman staggering down the street, sometimes naked, high on you know what and oblivious to what was around them... you get the picture. A friend and I once tried a cigarette when we were 10, could not get past a couple of puffs without feeling disgusted, so smoking anything never appealed to me. Those impressions at that young age last a lifetime.

In high school and college I had plenty of friends who did drugs. I chose to be "above suspicion" in these matters, and would simply leave from wherever, or separate myself, whenever the drugs came out. When our college radio station gave out its senior mock awards, I received the "how did he work here and never get high?" honor .

One reason DW and I are married is due to a situation in college where I likely saved her from a sexual assault or worse when she was high and drunk (after which she never did drugs or get drunk again). We were dating at the time and she actually broke up with me because at the time she thought I was too "prudish" and stopping her from "having fun" - until several of her friends later pointed to her, when she had sobered up, what I saved her from. Some even told her "if you are serious about breaking up with him, I'd like to date him, any guy who protects a woman like that is worth going out with" .

I have run into too many of those friends in my later adult years where it was clear that drugs impacted their life in a negative manner. When a woman who in high school you thought would be a model is now offering to go to your hotel room and do anything you want, clearly for money to get high... it is a cold slap in the face.

So... no thanks .

I can completely understand this. I've seen a lot of people use 'being drunk' as an excuse to misbehave. Women and men. The abuse of the drug sometimes comes from some earlier trauma. Those who enjoy in moderation, recreationally and responsibly...no issues. Those that can't handle themselves...issues.

Driving. I never felt like I had a hard time keeping it between the ditches when I was 'stoned' but when I was drunk I thought I was Mario Andretti behind the wheel and probably almost killed myself and others with terrible driving skills and etiquette. It can be distracting, taking a toke while driving, I've seen some take a swig while driving and its clear to me which one is "worse" but even texting or changing the radio dial is equally as dangerous. There is a time, and a place. Thankfully I don't have to, but if I had to choose between taking a ride with someone who just had 2 cocktails vs 2 joints, its would be a clear choice. Cool thread.

 

[MC Rider]

...........but if I had to choose between taking a ride with someone who just had 2 cocktails vs 2 joints, its would be a clear choice. Cool thread.

Yeah. LOL.


I have thought for years that alcohol is much worse for you than MaryJane. Just in general. Pills and powders and such are much more dangerous, on a whole other level. Some of that will kill you now, no waiting around.

 

[Gumby]

I had multiple top secret clearances and plenty of drug tests. There is always a way around all that business. Its probably a bit surprising to a non-user, but for every front door, there is another trap door. It doesn't necessarily need to be your pee that goes into the cup

When I was in the Navy, they had someone watch you fill the cup. Up close and in person. I was a submariner; there was no such thing as privacy.

 

[RobbieB]

Yeah. There is no lethal dose for pot. I think the test was you had to smoke a ton in an hour or some other nonsense.

Don't get me wrong, I know a lot of folks can't handle it. The graduation rate for engineering students at U of M was 50%. Flip a coin. My buddy (and room mate) for three years said it best "you got to maintain" which meant do as much booze and dope as you want but you got to get that degree. Yeah Baby! Otherwise it was all a waste of time and money.

And you got to maintain after when you have a job and a mortgage too. Even more important, now you have more to lose. Drugs and responsibility don't mix well and as my responsibility rose my drug use declined. No more cocaine, LSD, peyote, mushrooms, dexedrine, pcp, methadrine, seconal, valium, sodium amatol.

Just smoke a little pot now and have some booze -

 

[6miths]

Have never drank or smoked or done anything else. DW a bit of a druggie as a kid. Have talked about doing LSD in a controlled setting. Perhaps one day.

 

[kgtest]

Have never drank or smoked or done anything else. DW a bit of a druggie as a kid. Have talked about doing LSD in a controlled setting. Perhaps one day.

LSD always scared me for some reason.. maybe it was because I saw some people licking the ground or something strange one time. Mushrooms were fun until they weren't. Had a bad trip. Had a bag of them sitting in my secret "drawer" and mom found them. The bad trip combined with DM extreme disappointment after the discovery was enough for me to decide I met my match. Something about "mother knows best" hehehe.

 

[kgtest]

Yeah. There is no lethal dose for pot. I think the test was you had to smoke a ton in an hour or some other nonsense.

Don't get me wrong, I know a lot of folks can't handle it. The graduation rate for engineering students at U of M was 50%. Flip a coin. My buddy (and room mate) for three years said it best "you got to maintain" which meant do as much booze and dope as you want but you got to get that degree. Yeah Baby! Otherwise it was all a waste of time and money.

And you got to maintain after when you have a job and a mortgage too. Even more important, now you have more to lose. Drugs and responsibility don't mix well and as my responsibility rose my drug use declined. No more cocaine, LSD, peyote, mushrooms, dexedrine, pcp, methadrine, seconal, valium, sodium amatol.

Just smoke a little pot now and have some booze -

I feel the strong urge to sit on the porch with you RobbieB! Something tells me your stories alone would 'blow my mind' ! Your honesty is super refreshing too!

 

[RobbieB]

Thanks!

If you're in the central valley, just gimme a pm and we can proceed. I even have a porch swing -

 

[MRG]

LSD always scared me for some reason.. maybe it was because I saw some people licking the ground or something strange one time. Mushrooms were fun until they weren't. Had a bad trip. Had a bag of them sitting in my secret "drawer" and mom found them. The bad trip combined with DM extreme disappointment after the discovery was enough for me to decide I met my match. Something about "mother knows best" hehehe.

Oh the memory of what I was told. I grew a mushroom kit back about 1979. The first two times were a blast and then the last time happened. We had less shrooms than before but oh my. I'm told I thought I was a mushroom and needed to drown myself to die in order to be normal again. I have memories of trying to stick my head in the sink.... with DW pulling my head out of the sink. I didn't eat any kind of mushroom for a decade afterwards.

 

[11522914]

No more cocaine, LSD, peyote, mushrooms, dexedrine, pcp, methadrine, seconal, valium, sodium amatol.

Just smoke a little pot now and have some booze -

No Quaaludes Robbie. I'm a little disappointed. [emoji6]

 

[NanoSour]

Career military man and never tried any drugs as it was a big no-no back in the day. No regrets here. I understand you can have experimented with marijuana and still be eligible to serve in today's military.

 

[RobbieB]

Yeah, those too. Just sorta forgot them as not my fav. Didn't do much horse tranks (pcp) advertised as "crystal T" either. Mostly did the downs barbs, vallium, ludes as a come down from acid or speed. I was more into the uppers than the downers.

We even smoked crack before it was called that. You had to make your own by heating up cocaine with baking soda in a test tube with water. Back then it was called "free base", same stuff that set Richard Pryor on fire. Yeah that stuff will bring you to heaven and send you to hell when you run out. Burned up about 10 grand with that foolishness before we both decided to quit.

Yeah, I (we, wife, friends) all did a lot of drugs that we don't do anymore. Would I do it again? Yup, good buzz was worth it. Back then when we were young. Not young anymore, so no more cocaine for me. But back in the 80's cocaine was everywhere. Glamour drug. If you got a little tired partying from smoking all the pot, drinking all that beer and a few shots of tequlia, a line of coke would pick you right up again. So you could have another shot and fill up that bong!

Big fun back then, but not anymore -

 

[NW-Bound]

LSD always scared me for some reason.. maybe it was because I saw some people licking the ground or something strange one time. Mushrooms were fun until they weren't. Had a bad trip...

Oh the memory of what I was told. I grew a mushroom kit back about 1979. The first two times were a blast and then the last time happened. We had less shrooms than before but oh my. I'm told I thought I was a mushroom and needed to drown myself to die in order to be normal again. I have memories of trying to stick my head in the sink.... with DW pulling my head out of the sink. I didn't eat any kind of mushroom for a decade afterwards.

I have seen YouTube videos of homeless street addicts in Seattle and SF ranting in the street, defecating in trash cans in plain view on the sidewalk, and other manners of lunacy.

It's obvious that they were on drugs, but what was it? LSD, meth, mushroom?