Chinaco's post sparked this question:
Anyone else tried to teach their kids how to FIRE?
Spouse and I are doing our darnedest to equip our kid with financial & career skills, but the ER bar seems pretty high. It's hard to see the benefits of slogans like "Kids, stay in school" when your parents (who actually did stay in school) drop you off there enroute working on the rental property. It's also hard for a teen to be motivated to pedal uphill to high school when they suspect that one of their ER parents will be loading a longboard into the car later that morning.
Spouse and I weren't raised to think about financial independence, let alone ER. Budgeting was taught, but not saving for retirement-- it was just too far in the future to even be discussed. Our parents' ERs happened relatively suddenly, not until spouse and I were in our 30s, and neither of their examples really seemed to apply to our situation. Veterans are strongly encouraged to start a post-military career so the ER concept didn't really catch on with us until about two years before I ER'd. And despite the military retiree's ER advantages, I certainly wouldn't encourage a teen to join the military for ER benefits.
Despite [-]all our free time to get into our teen's business[/-] our ER lifestyle our kid is blissfully oblivious, perhaps even dismissive, of the benefits of ER. She just can't see how ER would matter to her. It seems better to encourage her to find a career that she can love as an avocation, not merely as a treadmill to FIRE. (She can learn all about overload & burnout later.) Her part-time job fills her with happiness & enthusiasm so at this stage of her life we certainly don't want to stomp on the putative joys of working.
I guess the most an ER parent can do for their kids is to demonstrate by example. Someday their adult children can fall back on those memories when their own interests begin to turn to FIRE. As Jarhead has pointed out before, teens are so busy dealing with their own lives that they can hardly be expected to notice what's going on with their parents.
Any other ideas?
It also seems that every generation of parent tries to provide a bit more for their children. It seems that we are at a point where the current generation that is entering the workforce has mighty high expectations for immediate gratification in spending. The middle class in the US is turning themselves into financial wrecks... they want it all right now. They have become spoiled. Forget financial independence... most are not even financially stable.
Anyone else tried to teach their kids how to FIRE?
Spouse and I are doing our darnedest to equip our kid with financial & career skills, but the ER bar seems pretty high. It's hard to see the benefits of slogans like "Kids, stay in school" when your parents (who actually did stay in school) drop you off there enroute working on the rental property. It's also hard for a teen to be motivated to pedal uphill to high school when they suspect that one of their ER parents will be loading a longboard into the car later that morning.
Spouse and I weren't raised to think about financial independence, let alone ER. Budgeting was taught, but not saving for retirement-- it was just too far in the future to even be discussed. Our parents' ERs happened relatively suddenly, not until spouse and I were in our 30s, and neither of their examples really seemed to apply to our situation. Veterans are strongly encouraged to start a post-military career so the ER concept didn't really catch on with us until about two years before I ER'd. And despite the military retiree's ER advantages, I certainly wouldn't encourage a teen to join the military for ER benefits.
Despite [-]all our free time to get into our teen's business[/-] our ER lifestyle our kid is blissfully oblivious, perhaps even dismissive, of the benefits of ER. She just can't see how ER would matter to her. It seems better to encourage her to find a career that she can love as an avocation, not merely as a treadmill to FIRE. (She can learn all about overload & burnout later.) Her part-time job fills her with happiness & enthusiasm so at this stage of her life we certainly don't want to stomp on the putative joys of working.
I guess the most an ER parent can do for their kids is to demonstrate by example. Someday their adult children can fall back on those memories when their own interests begin to turn to FIRE. As Jarhead has pointed out before, teens are so busy dealing with their own lives that they can hardly be expected to notice what's going on with their parents.
Any other ideas?