Travel Plan 2023

We just booked a place in Asheville NC for the month of October. Will use it as a base to explore the region for the first time.

Planning on seeing friends in Wilmington and road trip to Charleston. Also Biltmore.

Any recommendations are appreciated!

Be sure to venture over to Gatlinburg. I've booked Thanksgiving week at a cabin between Asheville and Gatlinburg. We plan on exploring both and in between a bit. Most in my group have been in the area before. But still looking forward to it.
 
Hope you get better weather when you arrive.

It rained here overnight in parts of the Bay Area, which is unheard of in May. Temperatures dipped under 60 here during the day so I would imagine Monterey might be 50-55 during the day.

We're suppose to get some sun by Friday and gradual warming.

We are packed for cool damp weather, no problem! Weather forecasts have pretty much been lows 48 highs 58 and occasional rain.
 
We are packed for cool damp weather, no problem! Weather forecasts have pretty much been lows 48 highs 58 and occasional rain.

Yeah I think in general Monterey, Carmel, etc. are cooler than the Bay Area.

Even when sunny in the afternoon, you get some wind so you definitely need layers.
 
Just finished 2nd Arizona trip of the year. Next up a weekend in Atlanta in early June, 10 days in Colorado/ Wyoming in late July, then a road trip to Glacier NP in late August. Need to fit in a trip to the golden spike. Trying to fit in a SE US road trip this year to wrap up road trips in all 50 states, but this may have to wait to 2024.
 
My 80 yo mother is taking our family to a rented house in France near Monaco for a week this summer. And I am paying for half.

My siblings and nephew/nieces have enough coming up with pocket money for the trip. And I don't want my mum blowing all her savings on this.

It took some careful negotiation to get there. She wanted to make a grand gesture and feels it won't be if she isn't paying for it all. But we finally settled on me paying max 49% of the total. ;)
 
I leave for this trip on Sunday. https://www.oattravel.com/trips/sma...s?icid=hp_welcome_nexttrip_MPG_lk&res=4026869

It's actually a resumption of the trip I started in March, 2020; after the week-long pre-trip in Bolivia, they sent us home early as country after country in South America began to close its borders. We got out 2 days before Bolivia also closed its borders. :eek:

This will be my 4th trip with Overseas Adventure Travel and I'm also booked for Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania in the fall with them.
 
Athena, that looks like a great trip!
 
I leave for this trip on Sunday. https://www.oattravel.com/trips/sma...s?icid=hp_welcome_nexttrip_MPG_lk&res=4026869

It's actually a resumption of the trip I started in March, 2020; after the week-long pre-trip in Bolivia, they sent us home early as country after country in South America began to close its borders. We got out 2 days before Bolivia also closed its borders. :eek:

This will be my 4th trip with Overseas Adventure Travel and I'm also booked for Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania in the fall with them.
I've heard good things about OAT tours. What were the negatives that you experienced if any?

I ask because we mostly have traveled by ourselves and the few tours we have taken were partly spoiled by the tour guides on those trips. Maybe just bad luck? One tour was a short 3 day one from Rabbie's in Scotland starting from Edinburgh to Skye. The driver was entertaining on the bus but not pleasant in person. Another was a Rick Steve's southern Italy tour. The lady was a transplant American who had moved to Italy and had some hard knocks along the way -- not very well informed and unpleasant at times.
 
I've heard good things about OAT tours. What were the negatives that you experienced if any?

Well, they're expensive! :D

Few negatives. Guides are excellent, "ask-me-anything" people who will be honest about conditions in their country. A couple that we used in a particular city weren't as good but that was typically for only a day of the trip. After being spoiled rotten by some spectacular farm-to-table meals in various places (Albania for one- who knew? :D) some of the restaurant meals were pretty ordinary, but then I'm not a foodie. The tours I've taken have been a little hectic with two-day stays on average but then I can never point to places I would have left off the itinerary.

OTOH- I'd made my own flight reservations 3 years ago and they went above and beyond getting us ALL out of Bolivia. They found a Boliviana flight from Santa Cruz to Miami and we had to get up at 3:30 AM to get to the airport to fly from La Paz to Santa Cruz. I learned why we had to do that later: I noticed the takeoff roll on the flight from La Paz was VERY long and it was because of the high altitude. The runway at La Paz isn't long enough for bigger planes to get the required power to get airborne so we had to go to Santa Cruz to get from Bolivia to North America. (Ecuador, Columbia and Peru had already closed their borders.)

The more I travel, the more I learn.:)
 
I have 2 friends who have done multiple OAT tours. They have been very, very happy with their experiences so far. They keep trying to lure me on to one, but I'm a bit of a DIY traveler, so I haven't agreed to. So far.
 
I have mixed feelings about OAT.
On one hand they are very well organized and take you to excellent places. They also give you an often welcome chance to interact with the locals, such as going to dinner at someone's home. Their small group tours are well sized and easy to deal with.

On the other hand, they insist on sprinkling plenty of what they call "controversial topics" into their tours. Sometimes these turn into guilt trips and leave you with very negative emotions. Occasionally you can dodge these experiences by going off on your own that day, but not always. Just as one example, on our OAT tour of Ireland we were subjected to several days of lectures on the bus about the famine of the mid-19th century, an entire morning with a local guide in one town who carried on for hours about the trials and tribulations of his mother in the early 20th century, and much of a day in Derry wallowing in all the bad aspects of "the Troubles". Those were most unpleasant, but unavoidable.

On the whole, I would consider taking another (we've done two), but independent travel is much more to my liking.
 
My 80 yo mother is taking our family to a rented house in France near Monaco for a week this summer. And I am paying for half.

My siblings and nephew/nieces have enough coming up with pocket money for the trip. And I don't want my mum blowing all her savings on this.

It took some careful negotiation to get there. She wanted to make a grand gesture and feels it won't be if she isn't paying for it all. But we finally settled on me paying max 49% of the total. ;)

Interesting, where near Monaco?

I'm flying to Nice at the end of this month, going to spend some time in Corsica and then in Menton, which is near Monaco of course.

Choosing it for the views, every coastal town there looks magnificent, as are some of the towns across the border in the Ligurian Riviera.

Monaco offers views, luxury and museums. I walked by the Jacques Cousteau museum but didn't visit, but it's an insane location, hugging a cliff over the Mediterranean, near their port.

It appears like you can go to lower floors which may actually be under water.

Never went into the casino though, I think they have some strict dress codes, which in the summer may be tough and if you're carrying stuff like backpacks, it may be more difficult to pop in for a look.
 
I have mixed feelings about OAT.
On one hand they are very well organized and take you to excellent places. They also give you an often welcome chance to interact with the locals, such as going to dinner at someone's home. Their small group tours are well sized and easy to deal with.

On the other hand, they insist on sprinkling plenty of what they call "controversial topics" into their tours. Sometimes these turn into guilt trips and leave you with very negative emotions. Occasionally you can dodge these experiences by going off on your own that day, but not always. Just as one example, on our OAT tour of Ireland we were subjected to several days of lectures on the bus about the famine of the mid-19th century, an entire morning with a local guide in one town who carried on for hours about the trials and tribulations of his mother in the early 20th century, and much of a day in Derry wallowing in all the bad aspects of "the Troubles". Those were most unpleasant, but unavoidable.

On the whole, I would consider taking another (we've done two), but independent travel is much more to my liking.


Yeah I've looked at OAT and some of the other tour companies people recommended here.

On the other hand, we're all spending a lot on travel, real BTD stuff.

OTOH, anyone who's done DIY travel planning knows that they could plan their own trips for a lot less than these tours, usually staying in better hotels (not just price but location-wise), just set up an itinerary of mainly things you want to do, as opposed to these tours which may include some activities you're not that interested in.


I imagine they have very good tour guides, who might make sure you see and do things you might not learn about if you planned the trip yourself.

Also they'd have to be better than the local tour guides you can hire for walking tours, day trips, skip the line tours to popular venues, etc.

I have never done one of these organized tours so it would be difficult to judge but I've been satisfied with the local guides you can find in most destinations, such as free walking tours (where you tip them afterwards) and day trips.


So maybe BTD, when it comes to travel, still has limits and you still evaluate value when comparing these organized tour packages to DIY travel.
 
Another issue on tours can be the fellow travelers. As mentioned we don't have much tour experience. On the southern Italy tour there were about 16 of us.

There were two foursomes and they tended to exclude others. There was a couple that seemed to be very political and towards the other end of the spectrum from us. Then there can be the age differences and singles not feeling comfortable with couples. Maybe a better tour guide would have made this easier. DW was so relieved when we ended the trip in Rome and took off on our own. If I were writing a novel this would be great material.

Why are people so weird? :LOL:
 
Interesting, where near Monaco?


A bit up in the hllls between Nice and Monaco. My mum has been there before and is eager to show off the area. A restaurant across the street from the Casino is one of the things she has planned.


Thanks for the tip about the Jaques Costeau museum - I would like to visit there!
 
Yea, we’ve used Road Scholar a couple times. But no more of that for us. Mainly we prefer DIY. A tour can never vary from its planned itinerary no matter the circumstances. DIY, you can change things up as you go.
And, as mentioned, the people you are with will have an impact on your enjoyment. Especially the guides themselves.
Our experience with Road Scholar is that it seems to attract folks who have a different worldview than ours. And the ‘learning opportunities’ RS prides themselves on are certainly of a particular bent also.

I so much prefer DIY, but of course it’s a lot more prep work.
 
For us:

July -3 weeks in CO - family reunion, hiking, mountain biking.
Sept - 2 weeks hiking in the dolomites. This is our second year doing this - we do self guided and I plan all our own routes.
Nov - 10 Days bareboating in the BVI with another couple.
Dec - A week in Antigua Kite Surfing.
 
I’m all packed and ready to go!

Tomorrow, my brother is driving me to my Pittsburgh airport hotel. Then on Friday morning I fly to New York LaGuardia. Then I’ll taxi or Uber across Long Island to JFK. Friday evening I fly off on the overnight flight to Madrid and connect onward to Rome. Then after 2 nights in Rome, I’ll board Royal Caribbean’s Explorer of the Seas for a 6 night + a 7 night back to back cruise around Italy, the Adriatic and Greece. After the cruise, I’ll fly back to Madrid for 2 nights of exploration. Finally, I fly back to NYC for a night before flying back to Pittsburgh.

Lots of moving parts that I’ve been preparing for for a few months. I’m looking forward to getting back to Europe!
 
A bit up in the hllls between Nice and Monaco. My mum has been there before and is eager to show off the area. A restaurant across the street from the Casino is one of the things she has planned.


Thanks for the tip about the Jaques Costeau museum - I would like to visit there!

Love that area. Loved staying in Nice and exploring the surrounding area, hill cities, and Grasse and the perfume factories there. The food in that part of France is amazing, probably my favorite French cuisine - more Mediterranean.
 
Or Eze overlooking the ocean. Or La Turbie.

There are roads above Monaco where you have views over the city but not much up there aside from a golf course.
 
On the other hand, they insist on sprinkling plenty of what they call "controversial topics" into their tours. Sometimes these turn into guilt trips and leave you with very negative emotions. Occasionally you can dodge these experiences by going off on your own that day, but not always. Just as one example, on our OAT tour of Ireland we were subjected to several days of lectures on the bus about the famine of the mid-19th century, an entire morning with a local guide in one town who carried on for hours about the trials and tribulations of his mother in the early 20th century, and much of a day in Derry wallowing in all the bad aspects of "the Troubles". Those were most unpleasant, but unavoidable.

So far I've found the "controversial topics" interesting but it looks like your group got an overdose. The two in South America includes discussions with a sex worker and with someone in the coca industry. I actually like them because I hear points of view I never would have considered before. Still, they walk a fine line: you wan someone who can speak eloquently about their experience and leave you with a deeper understanding but not ruin your whole day.

On other tour group members: Yeah, that's a hazard. I've run into only two genuinely unpleasant ones and they were pretty easy to avoid. On last year's E. Europe trip they had a "no discussions of American politics" rule, which was apparently company-wide. It worked out well- there were occasional comments shared one-on-one with my fellow travelers but I don't think anyone held any extreme views and there were no arguments.

I'm more comfortable on my own in places where the local language is English (or at least one of the Latin-based languages so I can puzzle out the written word) and the place is well-traveled. My late husband and I never had the nerve to drive anywhere in Europe or the UK and now I can see how much of the countryside and the small towns we missed in Croatia.
 
We went to Zion National Park, the Grand Canyon, and finally a week in Sedona. Almost every day we hiked and did watercolor sketching. The Grand Canyon was unplanned but we dropped in for a one day stay in mid-week. It was pretty uncrowded and we just did the rim walk. If you walk from the Geology Museum towards the west there are a great set of displays detailing the geology you see before you. There are stone specimens along the path with polished slices showing the beautiful inner colors and patterns. I would never have known that about 1.2 miles of material above the top layer has been eroded away and so there are no dinosaur materials to study there. The fossils are from the Paleozoic era which ended 250 million years ago.

Here is a pic of a herd of Bighorn Sheep we ran into in the eastern section of Zion:

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Here is an example of one sketch in Sedona and also a pic of DW sketching on her tripod chair. We look for some shade and a somewhat flat place for the chairs. The last day we did a 7 mile hike which was a bit too much with sketch time thrown in. Thunder was a warning to finish up and head back to the car.

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Did they all have those radio collars on?

Interesting question. No, I think maybe 3 out of 10 might have had those. But I don't have enough pics to know for sure. The young ones didn't have them and the big male (not shown in the above pic) did not either.
 
Had a great trip to the Monterey Bay Area. Visited the Monterey Bay Aquarium 3 times, hiked Point Lobos and Asilomar Beach trails, Carmel River State Beach, 17 Mile Drive, Elkhorn Slough boat cruise. We stayed at Monterey Bay Inn from RobbieB’s recommendations the first few nights - sea lions barking in the distance all night LOL but was great location and views. Then moved to Pacific Grove. Saw lots of great birds and wildlife overall. Also swung by the Apple Apple Park Visitor Center on the way back to San Jose - rooftop was closed for maintenance unfortunately so just could get a few glimpses of the Infinite Loop building from the side.

Enjoyed the deliciously cool weather. Bundled up for sure. Lots of great seafood and outdoor seating with views.
 
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