Bigritchie
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Horizon Project.............
I would put it down to a badly designed poll. This has been discussed at length upthread.Whats surprising in looking back at the poll figures is that almost 40% of respondents feel that GW is either not real or not caused by people. I'm curious as to the source of their data sets and whether these can be made available to the scientific community...which has determined that is is real and is caused by people...at a high probability and with much supporting data.
. . . what was your take on the proposed actions to be taken? Based on what you read, do you feel that its prudent to "wait awhile" or that satisfactory immediate actions werent well formed enough to be actionable?
Whats surprising in looking back at the poll figures is that almost 40% of respondents feel that GW is either not real or not caused by people. I'm curious as to the source of their data sets and whether these can be made available to the scientific community...which has determined that is is real and is caused by people...at a high probability and with much supporting data.
Well I read the IPCC summary. Whew! and Holy Moley, Rocky. Also, I have to pretty much fall down on CFB's side of the argument: humans seem to have caused a lot of the problems related to current global warming. And we're the ones who need to fix it . . . starting soon. Thanks CFB
# Scenario A1T - * A1T - Emphasis on non-fossil energy sources.
* Sea level rise likely range [20 to 45 cm] (8 to 18 inches)
# Scenario A1FI - * A1FI - An emphasis on fossil-fuels.
* Sea level rise likely range [26 to 59 cm] (10 to 23 inches)
So what you're saying is that people would feel compelled to vote in a random internet survey, even though the choices didnt represent the way they actually believed?
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I managed a market research function for 5 years. Surveys are greatly influenced, not only by the choices offered but also by the way they are presented: their order, their wording, the survey sample...Well, some people were compelled to NOT VOTE (me, and probably kcowan), because of the wording. So their views are not reflected, distorting the results.
-ERD50
Whats surprising in looking back at the poll figures is that almost 40% of respondents feel that GW is either not real or not caused by people.
ERD50:
I just found this. I don't know how up-to-date it is, or what part of the GW jig saw puzzle it belongs in:
<snip>
Improvements are good, even small ones.
ERD50:
I just found this. I don't know how up-to-date it is, or what part of the GW jig saw puzzle it belongs in:
Carbon dioxide sequestering
-ERD50A1 family: .... New technologies are rapidly introduced ....
A1T - non-fossil fuel energy sources dominate.
I agree with you but I suspect it was the closest choice by process of elimination of the less correct choices. Also there might be a feeling that GW is referring to the political process rather than the scientific one. Climate change is more correct because it includes the 3 decade cooling period after 1945.Within that 40% you mention, is (currently) >18% ( 18 by count also) that say that Global Warming is not real. Now that is a result that I find surprising.
And, I keep falling back on the IPCC's own words (as I understand them). If we make *large* improvements regarding fossil fuel usage, we are still left with 80% of the problem.
I stand by my view that the poll is poorly worded