ERD50
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I follow this youtuber ("Fil from Wings of Pegasus"), he does some really excellent analysis of musician's performances, brings out details I wouldn't notice w/o guidance. In the past year or so, he's been focused on the use of auto-tune and pitch correction, and it's been getting stale for me. But I saw this, and wow!
A viewer sent him concert video taken by fans of two or three different recent Eagle's concerts of their hit "Deperado" (which really features the vocalist), and when synced, the two audio tracks are exact duplicates. The different crowd noises in each seem to confirm they are different concerts. Before he used his pitch monitor software on the tracks, he panned one to Left and one to Right. With headphones on, it's clear that this is not two separate performances, no one can sing that in sync (or would want to - that's what makes a 'live' performance). There's always little variations.
But the software leaves no doubt. Little nuances line up as perfectly as you can get, considering there is some crowd noise causing some gaps and area were the SW can't quite follow. But it really can't be two performances.
The only "out there" theory I have is someone dubbed audio onto two different videos, but the crowd noise differences would make that really difficult (I suppose that could be dubbed in), but why would someone go to that trouble.
I really like many of the Eagles songs, I wouldn't pay those big bucks to see them (I avoid big concerts anyhow), but if I did, I'd be PO'd to find they were faking it.
A lot of comments on-line that The Eagles sound "too good" for their age. They show Walsh skipping the high notes when he plays solo, but seems to make them sound really good when he's with the Eagles.
I suppose the Eagles could claim they use that in his ear monitor as a guide, and they 'mistakenly' mixed it to the PA? Sure.
What do you think? This guy is not into hyperbole, so that title means something!
-ERD50 (sorry Eagles fans)
A viewer sent him concert video taken by fans of two or three different recent Eagle's concerts of their hit "Deperado" (which really features the vocalist), and when synced, the two audio tracks are exact duplicates. The different crowd noises in each seem to confirm they are different concerts. Before he used his pitch monitor software on the tracks, he panned one to Left and one to Right. With headphones on, it's clear that this is not two separate performances, no one can sing that in sync (or would want to - that's what makes a 'live' performance). There's always little variations.
But the software leaves no doubt. Little nuances line up as perfectly as you can get, considering there is some crowd noise causing some gaps and area were the SW can't quite follow. But it really can't be two performances.
The only "out there" theory I have is someone dubbed audio onto two different videos, but the crowd noise differences would make that really difficult (I suppose that could be dubbed in), but why would someone go to that trouble.
I really like many of the Eagles songs, I wouldn't pay those big bucks to see them (I avoid big concerts anyhow), but if I did, I'd be PO'd to find they were faking it.
A lot of comments on-line that The Eagles sound "too good" for their age. They show Walsh skipping the high notes when he plays solo, but seems to make them sound really good when he's with the Eagles.
I suppose the Eagles could claim they use that in his ear monitor as a guide, and they 'mistakenly' mixed it to the PA? Sure.
What do you think? This guy is not into hyperbole, so that title means something!
-ERD50 (sorry Eagles fans)